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Pe vremuri aveam o linie de final in Fortran.Se numea End of file si alta End of job.
Zic si acum-EOF,EOJ

Hai Adrian, ce e, ai obosit?

razvan333 scrie:Hai Adrian, ce e, ai obosit?

Minis never die.Asta din semnatura si nu este vorba goala.Dar ,ca orice angajat la o firma germana,respect hotararile sefilor fara discutie si Domnul Moderator a tras semnalul de alarma.
Desigur ne putem muta pe alt topic, mai adecvat.Daca vrei , te rog, cu placere,Lady's first!

Hai sa continuam aici, sunt convins ca pe mymini se poate...discutiile cu tine imi plac mereu si sunt constructive...doar sa nu ma bagi prea mult pe tehnic ca ma pierzi
De ce crezi tu ca BMW este superior AUDI?...hai sa luam seria 5 si A6 si sa le comparam...de la interior la exterior, inclusiv motorizarea.
Off topic: am un coleg cu BMW X5 din 2010, 3.5D xdrive...scula de masina.Am condus-o, merge misto, ce sa zic, dar proprietarul care este fan BMW(inainte a avut tot un X5) mi-a zis ca la un moment dat a trebuit sa imprumute o masina ca sa mearga la munte, nu cunosc exact motivele...masina era un A4 quattro si a zis ca a fost impresionat, a dat jet la VW Touareg si alte 4X4 cu acel Audi.Omul a ramas placut impresionat si repet, este fan BMW si posesor de X5.

Dupa mine aici este diferenta mare:
quattro generation V
Starting with the B7 Audi RS4 and the manual transmission version of the 2006 B7 Audi S4. It was adopted in the entire S4 lineup in 2007.[1] and become the standard fitment on all quattro Audis with longitudinal engine layout until replaced in the 2010 RS5.
System type: Permanent asymmetric four-wheel drive.
Torsen type 3 (Type "C") centre differential, 40:60 'default' split front-rear, automatically apportioning up to 80% of the torque to one axle using a 4:1 high-biased center differential. With the aid of ESP, up to 100% of the torque can be transferred to one axle.
Open rear differential, Electronic Differential Lock (EDL).[4]
Open front differential, Electronic Differential Lock (EDL).[

Applications
xDrive is standard equipment on the X1, X3, X5, and X6 crossover sport utility vehicles. It is also optional on the 3 Series (2003-present for sedans, 2007-present for coupes), 5 Series (2005-present), 6 Series (2012-present for coupe and Gran Coupe), and 7 Series (2010-present).
BMW gradually expanded the availability of xDrive across its whole lineup to better compete with Audi's quattro and Mercedes-Benz's 4Matic, the latter two which are widely available across their respective offerings. As of the 2010-12 model years, BMW Canada has even stopped offering RWD trims if an xDrive counterpart is available for its 5 Series, 6 Series, and 7 Series cars, a major reversal from the 2009 model year and prior where only the BMW 528i and 535i were available with xDrive. BMW Canada's switch has surprised some observers, as AWD was "once the sole purview of Audi with a few odd-duck Mercedes mixed in, the switch to AWD is so strong that many luxury models are now predominantly AWD, though the 650 is the first high-end sport coupe defection among BMWs. Even more surprising is that the Coupe will only be available in AWD guise; if you want a 650 that powers only the rear wheels, you’ll have to opt for the ragtop version."[2]
xDrive was introduced in 2003 with the new X3 and the refreshed BMW 3 Series (E46).
The first application of xDrive on V8-powered BMW cars (as opposed to crossover sport utility vehicles) was on the 2010 BMW 750i xDrive and the 2011 BMW 550i xDrive.
xDrive was first used on BMW M vehicles starting with the 2010 BMW X5 M and X6 M. BMW also confirmed that they are looking into producing a BMW M5 with xDrive, although it is not known which model will get it and when it will happen [3]
[edit]Dynamic Performance Control

BMW's Dynamic Performance Control system works in unison with xDrive all-wheel drive. DPC is a drivetrain and chassis control system that works to regulate traction and especially correct over- and understeer by actively spreading out drive forces across the rear axle. Torque is split not only between the front and rear wheels (xDrive) but also from side to side at the rear for improved agility and added stability (through the DPC rear axle). [4]
The DPC differential features clutch packs on both output sides that are actuated by an electric motor. The clutch pack activates a planetary gearset which causes one wheel to be overdriven. A conventional control system will use the brakes to reduce the speed of the faster moving wheel (which is the one with less traction)and reduce engine power. This leads to increased brake wear and slower than optimal progress. The DPC system speeds up the slower moving wheel (the one with the most traction) in order to maintain stability when needed. For example; while turning, the outer wheel is overdriven to provide greater acceleration using the traction advantage through the dynamic loading of the outboard wheel in cornering. In an oversteer situation, the inner wheel is overdriven to regain traction balance.
The first application of DPC was introduced on the BMW X6, which began production in 2008 as a 2009 model, where it is a standard equipment.[5]

Deci diferenta este daca citesti atent la DPC.

Desigur, indiferent ce 4x4 ai, esentiale sunt pneurile de iarna,de obicei cei cu X5,pacatuiesc cu pneuri late iarna , talie joasa, cea mai mare prostie, iarna trebuie sa rulezi cu cel mai ingust pneu pe care-l poate suporta masina,pe zapada un pneu ingust bate absolut tot,dar suntem in Ro.si vrem sa aratam bine in BMW,cu talie joasa si iarna.Multi posesori de X5 nici nu au 2 randuri de jante,sa-mi fie cu iertare dar cred ca ai vazut si tu cine conduce BMW in Ro.(desigur sunt si exceptii in sensul bun)
Deci Razvan, legat de mersul pe zapada cu 4x4 sunt 3 factori, si dupa mine asta este ordinea:
1. Anvelopa de iarna
2.Sistemul 4x4 cu care este echipata masina
3.Piesa din spatele volanului.(cred ca sunt 2 categorii putin diferite la BMW si Audi cu un plus pentru cei cu Audi)
Pentru edificare cauta un test drive facut de Promotor cu A5 Quatro si BMW 330XD,urcare la Poiana Brasov pe 5cm de zapada.Audi a ramas putin de caruta asta ca sa ne exprimam politicos,de fapt a fost un macel.Audi a vazut doar la pornire esapamentul BMW-ului ,dupa aia nu l-a mai vazut,cand Audi a ajuns sus,tipul cu BMW-ul facuse si o coborare pe partie si agatase si o rusoaica.

Mda, m-ai rupt...m-ai bagat in detalii tehnice, stai ca trebuie sa mai aprofundez si revin Asta o recunosc si eu, fara doar si poate, xdrive e smecher rau, am mers cu xdrive dar nu stiu cum se comporta iarna in comparatie cu quattro.
Mi-a placut in schimb, partea cu plusul pentru cei cu Audi

Mie partea cu rusoaica...

Ca sa revenim putin la topic..ceva interesant de urmarit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDd ... re=related
Imi place concluzia prezentatorului la final
Hmmm, BMW face asa ceva?
PS: am gasit ceva si pentru fanii BMW...start excelent, dar nu cunosc finalul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN0L1h0f ... re=related

PS: am gasit ceva si pentru fanii BMW...start excelent, dar nu cunosc finalul

Daca te uiti atent in final se cam vede cum sat treaba,Veyronul era deja mult in fata.Dar adevaratul final este asta-tipul cu M3 i-a dat celui cu Veyronul taiteii promisi ca sa se lase filmat cum pierde un Veyron la un M3.Daca erau vecini cred ca-i tunde iarba si-i plimba cainele inca 10 ani de acum incolo.Si ala cu Veyronul cred ca are curte mare .
Vezi Razvan eu joc fair, nu umblu cu texte de genul-Te dai batut? Ai obosit?Nu vrei un Red?Un Cola zero?
Propun remiza precum Polihroniade si Kasparov.
NU SUNT FAN BMW, unul din patronii mei dupa o pleiada de BMW-uri si-a luat Nissan Navara.Consider ca asta a fost efectul marcii BMW asupra neuronilor lui,cred ca este o marca perversa cu efecte secundare foarte periculoase.Culmea , omul este fericit cu japoneza.
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